Subject	I disagree. I believe the pressurized, intercooled air
Posted by	Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) on February 03, 2006 at 9:35 AM
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In Reply To	There is a reason that there is a good bit of insulation posted by VECTOR on February 03, 2006 at 09:24 AM
Message	inside the pipes is still hotter than the surrounding ambient air in the engine bay. That being the case having insulated pipes would only trap heat rather than let it escape. If I'm not mistaken Damon measured these temperatures when experimenting with water injection a couple years ago and found the intake air (inside) was hotter than the outside. Z-Jay Vice President - Edmonton Z Car Club 93 300ZX TT - Stage VI
Follow Ups	Hardpipes vs. Samco - Aquaholic1984 23:46:00 02/02/06 hardpipes are strictly for bling. PITA to deal with - Guapo 23:49:53 02/02/06 Thanks...I'll stick with the non-bling then. (n/m) - Aquaholic1984 23:51:25 02/02/06 bah! (n/m) - Shawn300zTT GT28R MD 23:51:54 02/02/06 2nd (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 23:56:10 02/02/06 100% agreed - maglito 00:05:19 02/03/06 Truth. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 01:00:14 02/03/06 I have chrome hardpipes, and I agree 100%. (n/m) - Kenny 01:26:08 02/03/06 Nth (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 01:53:25 02/03/06 And then some... (n/m) - Fuzznutz 06:47:10 02/03/06 Agreed. (n/m) - WickedZX (NoVA) 07:21:07 02/03/06 ^^^you're all a bunch of pansis^^^ (n/m) - Spee 10:09:48 02/03/06 *2nd, but I'm biased. ;-) It takes me about 3 minutes to - Scotts94z32 10:22:55 02/03/06 easier sure, but marginally. - Spee 10:49:20 02/03/06 Do you not recall my post from yesterday? (n/m) - SactoTodd 10:27:20 02/03/06 yes - Spee 10:52:52 02/03/06 I was referring to your name calling. ;) - SactoTodd 11:27:11 02/03/06 2nd what Guapo said... - drmx 23:55:41 02/02/06 exactly the same reason that I got hard pipes. - mpbond(STL) 23:59:36 02/02/06 I have the samco hoses - Ebola (Calgary, AB) 00:00:01 02/03/06 Hard pipes won't expand when pressureized like the stock - mpbond(STL) 00:04:01 02/03/06 I really, REALLY doubt it was the pipes that did that. (n/m) - PennStateZ 00:05:17 02/03/06 I don't know, I didn't change anything at all besides those. - mpbond(STL) 00:10:49 02/03/06 your clamps were tighter on the reinstall (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 00:13:19 02/03/06 Possibly, they were pretty damn tight before though. (n/m) - mpbond(STL) 00:15:25 02/03/06 Their is no way 9psi would expand the stock hoses - Ebola (Calgary, AB) 00:08:01 02/03/06 I don't know, read my post below VVVVV (n/m) - mpbond(STL) 00:12:13 02/03/06 All i can say is you had a different problem, - Ebola (Calgary, AB) 00:36:12 02/03/06 The only other thing is maybe there was a small hole - mpbond(STL) 00:37:40 02/03/06 Agreed. More likely old clamps & frayed leaky edges. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 01:13:52 02/03/06 to touch, tug and pull, my Stillen silicone hoses are much - robo (sebring1970) 00:12:29 02/03/06 I have never even seen the silicone hoses, that's why - mpbond(STL) 00:14:41 02/03/06 what does that have to do with this? (n/m) - PennStateZ 00:20:42 02/03/06 if there is an expansion issue, and I'm not convinced - robo (sebring1970) 00:32:04 02/03/06 Agreed, but it is the only logical explanation that I can - mpbond(STL) 00:35:35 02/03/06 figuring stuff out like this on Z cars can drive you gah gah (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 00:43:29 02/03/06 just a theory... - nissanZtt222 00:44:12 02/03/06 Possibly, but I don't think the temp. drop would be enough - mpbond(STL) 00:53:47 02/03/06 I've heard the temp theory at the intake pipes knocked - robo (sebring1970) 00:59:42 02/03/06 mine seem to be as hot as the upper plenum. (n/m) - mpbond(STL) 01:00:39 02/03/06 do you think the stockers are insulated simply to keep - robo (sebring1970) 01:03:40 02/03/06 I see absolutely no point to insulating them. The rubber - mpbond(STL) 01:06:42 02/03/06 would insulating the stockers have any effect on the - robo (sebring1970) 01:13:31 02/03/06 maybe they were insulate to keep the heat out? - nissanZtt222 01:40:07 02/03/06 valid point, except that I don't know of anyone who reports - robo (sebring1970) 02:50:22 02/03/06 This must be that new math I've heard so much about. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 01:13:03 02/03/06 Samco rep told me the silicone is good to 80 bar *shrug* (n/m) - Fuzznutz 06:50:07 02/03/06 No one cares about your 'bar's Bob. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 08:46:35 02/03/06 You know you are ;-) (n/m) - Fuzznutz 10:38:07 02/03/06 80 bar = 1160 psi. I find that a little hard to believe. - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 08:57:30 02/03/06 Yeah, he probably ment 8 but he said 80... - Fuzznutz 10:43:59 02/03/06 I like the idea of SSQV's right before throttle bodies!!! - nemo1080 00:43:55 02/03/06 I fought the bling - SeedyROM 01:38:18 02/03/06 that's my look ;c) - robo (sebring1970) 02:32:50 02/03/06 Those are for the AVC-R - SeedyROM 04:52:16 02/03/06 You are definitely packed in around there - ZXTwnT300 09:03:01 02/03/06 Yeah, it's almost counter productive - SeedyROM 12:31:32 02/03/06 I'm happy with my silicon. - CarlCuro 09:10:06 02/03/06 There is a reason that there is a good bit of insulation - VECTOR 09:24:19 02/03/06 That's something I've been wondering about... - CarlCuro 09:31:50 02/03/06 I disagree. I believe the pressurized, intercooled air - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 09:35:27 02/03/06 What do you think the under-hood temps are? - CarlCuro 09:38:35 02/03/06 I like the look of hardpipes. - EricTTZ 10:51:27 02/03/06 Just get the Scott Smith hardpipes and be done - Riddick 15:21:12 02/03/06
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